From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23798: 25.0.90; Underscore for emphasis in Info? Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1def2f0a-ed4f-4d6b-a735-ed4272189f68@default> References: <<<>>> <<<<8337o9aogg.fsf@gnu.org>>>> <<<3129ea6b-50bf-48e6-b3d0-b180828dfc5c@default>>> <<<83wpll8bbi.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<7648aec5-f939-4da3-8d4c-9ea03799c0db@default>> <<83mvmh87dl.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466364629 23315 80.91.229.3 (19 Jun 2016 19:30:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23798@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 19 21:30:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiQB-0004Y0-5x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:30:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiQA-00029c-8P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:30:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiQ4-00026S-Fj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiPz-0008T5-Fa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:30:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:34335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiPz-0008Sc-Bx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiPz-0001d7-1N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:30:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23798 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23798-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23798.14663645546176 (code B ref 23798); Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23798) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2016 19:29:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46672 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiPB-0001bX-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:29640) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bEiPA-0001bE-35 for 23798@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u5JJT4aG016333 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:29:05 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u5JJT4md029057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:29:04 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u5JJT2MI010847; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:29:03 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83mvmh87dl.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:119792 Archived-At: > > > Yes, there's @strong, rendered as *foo*. > > > > I see. I suspected that, so I searched for it (in the Emacs and > > Elisp manuals). I did not find any matches that would seem to > > reflect that. >=20 > You have a few. Here's one, from "Action Arguments" in the Emacs > manual: >=20 > *Warning:* If previous command-line arguments have visited files, > the current directory is the directory of the last file visited. I saw that, but looked too quickly and thought it was showing a literal message.=20 > > It is unfortunate that Info "renders" what is clear markup, e.g. > > @strong, by something that is not markup and not clearly > > notational, and so is easily confused with ordinary text. >=20 > Info was designed to display on the dumbest text terminals out there. Yes, and it does a good job. > > Maybe you have a better suggestion? >=20 > I hope others will chime in. >=20 > > If you decide to do nothing wrt this enhancement request, perhaps > > you would at least consider to have the Info help, for Info that > > is displayed by Emacs, include a "notation" section that tells > > users that "_..._" is emphasis and "*...*" is strong emphasis. > > We already have node (info) `Help-Inv', which is along the same > > lines, but the notation is not described anywhere, AFAICT. >=20 > This is documented in the Texinfo manual. I think it should be pointed out to _readers_ of the manuals, not just to writers.