Re: Helm (and?) or Icicles (possibly using Evil)

[Hans BKK <hansbkk@gmail.com>]

On Monday, April 28, 2014 9:52:42 AM UTC-4, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
>> Your comment that you don't recommend either for emacs noobs - is that because it will stop me learning the stock vanilla ways of completion or simply because of the difficulties inherent in getting to know these complex packages? 

> I did not want to dissuade from starting with Helm or Icicles, I just 
don't know if it's a good idea.  Depends on your way of learning, 
probably.  Icicles and Helm are quite complex and offer substitutes for 
diverse tools in Emacs.  Learning Emacs that way may let you miss some 
basic stuff and features of vanilla Emacs. 


Thanks for clarifying. In another post

http://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!topic/gnu.emacs.help/czMrv9Zquks

I've outlined how I plan to avoid that potential problem; I'll keep a "vanilla" instance open for comparison to the effects of other packages I'm checking out, and for now I plan to only use Icicles or Helm in the emacs instance 

"used for exploring source-code, docs, creating my own self-doc-set, etc"

As a side note, if anyone knows of significant issues running Evil in conjunction with either Helm or Icicles, I'd appreciate a heads-up on that aspect as well.