From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29766: 25.3; REGRESSION, Dired on MS Windows, switches -alF Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:11:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ca5954e-224c-4bce-b70b-8d3fece8d7fd@default> References: <<<52375503-be26-49ea-9d31-9926a125c0db@default>>> <<<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default>> <<83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513660219 30857 195.159.176.226 (19 Dec 2017 05:10:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 05:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29766-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 19 06:10:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eRAAQ-0007h6-0g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 19 Dec 2017 05:11:04 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vBJ5B2dX010729; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 05:11:03 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4627.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8749 signatures=668649 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=745 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1712190074 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141243 Archived-At: > > Why the longstanding default behavior changed? >=20 > Because it makes Dired on Windows sort in the order that's much more > similar to what it does on GNU/Linux (where 'ls' produces such an > ordering by default in popular locales). And that's a good idea because ___? I suppose it's good for people using multiple platforms (consistency). But since different platforms have (apparently) such different outside-Emacs behaviors, perhaps an alist of values, keyed by platform in some way, would be better. Then the defaults for common platforms could be preconfigured according to what users of those platforms might expect. And a user of multiple platforms could opt for either the same behavior everywhere or different behaviors here and there. Just something to think about, I guess.