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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204544 Archived-At: On 06/15/2016 04:41 AM, Robert Weiner wrote: > Use {C-h h d d} to display the Hyperbole DEMO, for a demonstration of > standard Hyperbole button capabilities. This is a trick! It's not a demo, it's a tutorial. Or maybe really a manual, given it touches a lot of things but doesn't get to the "here's what you do to get X" quickly, where X is a thing the user knows and realizes they might want to do. A demo is when you expend minimal effort and mostly observe the niceties of a program/package/website/etc, in a condensed form. Some feedback: - The buttons look like when I've seen of ACME. Neat, but didn't make me switch. - This doesn't work: "To display the top-level Hyperbole menu, click the Action Key anywhere within this paragraph or alternatively". It asks for the location of TAGS file instead. - "Grep, Occurrence, Debugger and Compiler Error Buttons, and Cscope Analyzer Lines" for some reason describes the normal Emacs functionality? - "Depress the Action Key somewhere within this paragraph and while holding it down, depress the Assist Key." doesn't lead to the desired effect, or maybe I just understand the instructions.