From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to type when using Emacs? Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1bed3ccd-bb99-498b-870b-d3ec34e36ae0@h17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> References: <03a7c17e-9187-422b-be26-092e15d552be@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218296613 7002 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2008 15:43:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:43:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 09 17:44:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KRqcB-0000tR-DN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:44:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRqbE-0002fu-GZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:43:24 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!h17g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.97.120 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1218294444 17836 127.0.0.1 (9 Aug 2008 15:07:24 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h17g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.97.120; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:161016 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56363 Archived-At: On Aug 9, 7:52 am, dkco...@panix.com (David Combs) wrote: > In article <03a7c17e-9187-422b-be26-092e15d55...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups= .com>,Xah wrote: > > ... > > >=E2=80=A2 buy a keyboard with Control on both sides of keyboard. > > >=E2=80=A2 buy a keyboard such that left Control to F is the same as righ= t > >Control to J. (i.e. the modifier keys are placed symmetrically to your > >home's home position) > > Brands? Prices? I believe all Microsoft's ergonomic keyboards have the modifier keys placed symmetrically to the home position keys. I myself is using =E2=80=9C= The Microsoft Natural Multimedia Keyboard=E2=80=9D. For review, see: A Review of Microsoft Natural Keyboards http://xahlee.org/emacs/ms_keyboard/ms_natural_keyboard.html Also, about maybe last year i looked, most of the cheapest generic pc keyboards these days also have the modifier keys symmetrically placed to the F and J keys. Although i think their right Control is more to the right because the added a menu key on the right side. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84