From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Fire defun by typing keyword Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 06:47:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b9c3e40-fcbf-4759-a5c7-e4494ac5858e@googlegroups.com> References: <871u33mqj0.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87zjpjmuhj.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87k3gmbhjk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87d2mdma8f.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383835816 30770 80.91.229.3 (7 Nov 2013 14:50:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:50:16 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 07 15:50:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VeQuZ-0003jU-4P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:50:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40680 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VeQuY-0006gU-Nn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 09:50:18 -0500 X-Received: by 10.182.246.39 with SMTP id xt7mr3031263obc.40.1383835633344; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 06:47:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.113.194 with SMTP id ja2mr16937obb.31.1383835633287; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 06:47:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!i2no15178049qav.0!news-out.google.com!9ni15680qaf.0!nntp.google.com!o2no24153212qas.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.3.228; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.3.228 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 14:47:13 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202113 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94384 Archived-At: On Thursday, November 7, 2013 5:37:42 PM UTC+5:30, Alan Schmitt wrote: > Rustom Mody writes: > > Only issue is the keyboard: the site suggests an xmodmap solution -- makes emacs > > practically unusable. > > However on modern X-windows something like shell command > > $ setxkbmap -layout "us,apl" -variant ",sax" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" > > will let you input apl > > I dont expect you can use it without X!! > Is there way to try it with emacs on OS X? Hi Alan I believe that it compiles on Unix-ish systems so it should run on mac. I have of course no first hand experience. The other question is about input method. I see http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1468922 that setxkbmap has disappeared from mac :-( So we will need to look for an emacs (rather than window-system) solution. As it happens I asked on emacs-devel list http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-10/msg00365.html and a long thread evolved in which among others David de la Harpe Golden gave a first cut at an emacs input method http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-10/msg00513.html Its really in hacked-up stage as of now and I am travelling so cant see it through to something more polished for a few weeks. Still if it works please let me know If I were trying, Id try to first start apl in emacs with something like eshell. Then use David's input method. Rusi