From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36826: 26.1; request: add variable value editing feature to the *Help* buffer Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1aefceef-b0ae-4788-9734-80eb3fbbf7b3@default> References: <87a7cx4g7f.fsf@web.de> <87o91ccp6s.fsf@web.de> <8736iocgqp.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="198094"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , ndame , 36826@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 20:54:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hsXGC-000pQL-Oe for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:53:34 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2u0bqubd7d-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:53:34 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x6UIrUHW019493; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:53:30 GMT In-Reply-To: <8736iocgqp.fsf@web.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9334 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=687 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907300192 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9334 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=744 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907300191 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164126 Archived-At: > > (`set-variable' does make the current value available > > as the default (`M-n') for editing. In other respects > > `customize-set-variable' is preferable to `set-variable'.) >=20 > AFAICT: doesn't `customize-set-variable' prefill the minibuffer with > the current value? Seems to depend. For `fill-column', yes. For `default-frame-alist' no. You get a hint at the beginning of the prompt: "[repeat]", but you have no idea what to repeat, no completion, etc. You don't get the current value, as a complex list etc., AFAICT. (I haven't checked the code, to see what it really does.)