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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: window-buffer-change-functions
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 11:44:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a6028ed-73bd-7d5f-c206-8061bdc9edd0@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fsgkszcv.fsf@gnu.org>

I think that both, this text

 > A list of functions for redisplay to call when the assignment of
 > buffers to windows has changed.  Each function takes a single
 > argument.
 >
 > Redisplay examines the global value of this variable, and calls each
 > function once for each frame, with the frame as argument, if at least
 > one window on that frame has been added, deleted or made to display a
 > different buffer since the last time window change functions were
 > called.
 >
 > Redisplay also checks a buffer-local value of this variable in each
 > buffer that's currenly displayed in a window.  If there is one,
 > redisplay calls each function listed there for each window that
 > displays the buffer in question, with the window as argument,
 > @emph{if} the window has been created, or made to display that buffer,
 > since the last time the window change functions were called.

and this one

 > This hook is conceptually simple: it is called when the correspondence
 > between buffers and their windows changes.  The functions in the local
 > value are called for individual windows only when the corresponding
 > buffer is involved in the change, and the global value is called once
 > for any frame where the correspondence changed for any buffer.  This
 > shouldn't be hard to explain, and any not-100%-clean design shouldn't
 > get in the way of documenting it clearly and in a way that Lisp
 > programs could use, including elimination of passive tense.

both describe well what this is hook is supposed to provide and should
be used to improve the original text.

 > So I don't agree with the need to introduce two separate new
 > variables.  The downsides of such a split aren't justified by the
 > minor conceptual problems you mention.

If we provided two separate new variables, we'd also have to split
'window-size-change-functions', 'window-state-change-functions' and
'window-selection-change-functions' into two.

I'd invite people to read the entire section 29.31 on window change
functions and in particular the part at the end that tries to explain
the common aspects of buffer-local and default/global values for all of
these hooks.

Thanks, martin



  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-22  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-17 21:51 bug#51930: 27.2; Buffer-local functions? Buffers specified buffer-locally? Drew Adams
2021-11-18  8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18  9:42   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-18 11:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18 17:12     ` bug#51930: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-09-20 15:23   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-20 15:58     ` Drew Adams
2022-09-20 16:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-20 16:37         ` Drew Adams
2022-09-20 16:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-20 18:11             ` Drew Adams
2022-09-21  0:13               ` Phil Sainty
2022-09-21  1:27                 ` Drew Adams
2022-09-21  2:36                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21  4:05                   ` Phil Sainty
2022-09-21  6:21                     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-21 13:59                     ` window-buffer-change-functions Richard Stallman
2022-09-21 16:22                       ` [External] : window-buffer-change-functions Drew Adams
2022-09-22  6:21                       ` window-buffer-change-functions Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-22  9:44                         ` martin rudalics [this message]
2022-09-23  3:19                           ` window-buffer-change-functions Richard Stallman
2022-09-23  6:12                             ` window-buffer-change-functions Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24  2:43                               ` window-buffer-change-functions Richard Stallman
2022-09-23 11:13                             ` window-buffer-change-functions Phil Sainty
2022-09-24  2:43                               ` window-buffer-change-functions Richard Stallman
2022-09-22  3:11                     ` bug#51930: 27.2; Buffer-local functions? Buffers specified buffer-locally? Richard Stallman
2022-09-22  6:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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