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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322461 Archived-At: While I do find it somewhat distressing that there are no maintainers = for the Cocoa port (is that really true?), I wonder if there are any = metrics to support the assertion that the current Cocoa port is = unstable. While I don't regularly use the macOS build distributed by = GNU, I do use daily the Mitsuharu fork of Emacs on macOS without = surprise and have done so for years. Even that though is anecdotal. Are = there tickets to back up the story of unstable macOS behavior? - Charles =E2=80=94 Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D. kickingvegas@gmail.com > On Aug 6, 2024, at 6:08=E2=80=AFAM, Gerd M=C3=B6llmann = wrote: >=20 > I'm not an Emacs maintainer. I'm a macOS user, exclusively, and > sometimes I'm contributing this or that. >=20 > =46rom my POV, what is missing are Cocoa (macOS GUI) developers. The = Cocoa > port is unmaintained and has serious stability problems, i.e. it = freezes > and crashes much too frequently on macOS. >=20 > Without someone familiar with Cocoa who can fix things, testing won't > help much. >=20 > My 2 cents only, of course.