From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Tabs are ready? -> Let us give a definition of tabs. Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:51:34 -0800 Message-ID: <1D86CE94D8474775B07E86D943F6B604@us.oracle.com> References: <4F2E5D33.6020406@gmx.at><4F2E8185.4080706@gmx.at> <828vkhuptb.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328467916 7502 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2012 18:51:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:51:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Andy Moreton'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 05 19:51:55 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ru7Bq-0000Yb-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:51:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51224 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ru7Bq-0006qt-2j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:51:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47502) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ru7Bn-0006qo-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:51:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ru7Bk-0000GC-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:51:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:28522) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ru7Bk-0000G6-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:51:48 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q15IpjOH019495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:51:46 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q15IphP1013270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:51:44 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q15Iphes014718; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:51:43 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.51.229) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:51:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <828vkhuptb.fsf@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: AczkL472XSM1K2jKRMC+uF55npwZAQABt/nw X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4F2ECFC3.000B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.117 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148202 Archived-At: > Please give your proposed feature a different name. Given the existing > confusion between meaning of tab (hard tab characters vs. the > TAB key), adding more meanings for the word 'tab' will only add > to the confusion. > > Call your feature a tabbed-window or tabbed-frame, or > anything else which is distinct from 'tab' as this will avoid > of lot of confusion for end users trying to understand what > is being discussed. +1 for the attempt, FWIW. These things are called "tabs" by folks in general, but we do need a short way to distinguish them from tab chars and the TAB key. However, I'm not sure that "tabbed window" and "tabbed frame" are appropriate, given the generality of these things (but I have not followed this discussion, so maybe they are). IIUC, the only thing we can really say about them to distinguish them is that they are on a "tab bar", wherever that might be and whatever any individual tabs on that bar might do. One possibility, which is not very pretty but pretty much distinguishes these tabs without committing to any particular uses, would be to call them "tabbar tabs". Just a suggestion.