From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:07:03 +0000 Message-ID: <19fca5d18bf926945ec4@heytings.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <834k9km5no.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0iflsze.fsf@gnu.org> <874k9jzu7a.fsf@gnus.org> <874k9juy0r.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <83fsszfnjw.fsf@gnu.org> <31b2f1e9412c9002c8f4@heytings.org> <875ytvpgnn.fsf@gnus.org> <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> <19fca5d18b33eb323cef@heytings.org> <83mtn6ebb0.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27186"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 18 15:37:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSpP-0006pi-5X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:37:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59612 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSpO-0003bX-7K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSM7-0005GW-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:56530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcSM5-0004Yo-Ph; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:07:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1634562423; bh=AfagF6tFqhriI6cvBv7uz2T2hsFzUYo+bNlBSE54OMI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=L7X+xh+2Dj6l/qOAtSXii9v8ZkG/qjHM5lAIN+Ai7QmLZGGP7/aj66f4VvXyN3Ow8 nhnFwnQP+8PSSEsqgTJCs2hmnSGmlt3ZPcMxkHmrF3PtOt9E3u/6tW0jK0RpdPqfgB fuHRGPgLcwic9juNPMK4IUymZjkScg0chReecg5L8G9rq5WradcSPGIsVVJc5RYHdB KBpGXfQdqzu/uQu9SzxeGGPssyLozjbYxBbGdIuGdOtHtPuK3HEh4CQVOeNUyGTJMD MEpRfkWrchMsQWZzbPInewazIZzNeE2uFTqt6MtMoFqOIJYAslQzIgpAw3iY/3M1C8 z/iBV2KoEP0Uw== In-Reply-To: <83mtn6ebb0.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277288 Archived-At: >>> Why does kbd generate the leading backslash, though? >> >> Because it's the way Emacs uses to disambiguate symbols that could be >> understood as something else: >> >> (defun \0 () (interactive) (message "zero")) >> M-x 0 RET > > In the context of key sequences, it will be mighty confusing, I think. > Yes, but as discussed "123" is not a valid event symbol name anyway. I think it's more a side effect of the general disambiguation mechanism used by Emacs than something that kbd does on purpose.