From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johan Vromans Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Handling mail Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:25:29 +0200 Message-ID: <19998.64601.266213.844826@phoenix.squirrel.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310706060 15541 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 05:01:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:01:00 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 07:00:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhaWF-0005h8-TV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:00:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39789 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhaWE-0006Q6-LB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:00:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52869) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhMrA-0004jM-Ds for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:25:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhMr8-0005Yn-FV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.31]:3398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhMr7-0005YE-PW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:25:34 -0400 Original-Received: from phoenix.squirrel.nl (sioban.squirrel.nl [80.101.24.220]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6EEPTWl034271 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:25:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jv@squirrel.nl) Original-Received: by phoenix.squirrel.nl (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5F6EBC02E5; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:25:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.2.1 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-Received-From: 194.109.24.31 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:59:16 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81591 Archived-At: After having used GNU/Emacs+VM for 20-odd years I wonder: is it still viable to use Emacs to handle modern mail? Most mail and mail-related packages (e.g. VM, BBDB, MailCrypt, WL) seem to be outdated and unmaintained for years. Many problems exist with multi-media mail, Unicode, and so on. Gnus seems to be the only package that is up-to-date (I use it for reading news and mailing lists), however I've never been able to live with it as a news reader. I'm very hooked to VM's virtual folders. My dearest wish is to continue using Emacs for mail but currently this feels like a dead end. What are your ideas and suggestions? -- Johan