From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8936: 24.0.50; Incompatible change in the meaning of "other window" Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: <19987.44374.513919.24697@rgr.rgrjr.com> References: <19974.24793.979873.787090@rgr.rgrjr.com> <4E06FBEA.6010202@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309912466 23163 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2011 00:34:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8936@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 02:34:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG4K-0002af-96 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 02:34:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43226 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG4J-0006sC-1g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:34:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52274) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG43-0006s2-T4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG42-0002In-Gm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG42-0002Ih-B9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG41-0002px-UK; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Bob Rogers Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8936 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo unreproducible Original-Received: via spool by 8936-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8936.130991241610871 (code B ref 8936); Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8936) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 00:33:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG3b-0002pH-8f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rgrjr.com ([216.146.47.5]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeG3Z-0002p3-Nk for 8936@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rgrjr.dyndns.org (c-66-30-196-77.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [66.30.196.77]) by rgrjr.com (Postfix on CentOS) with ESMTP id 0261E16026D for <8936@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 28458 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jul 2011 00:33:27 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO rgr.rgrjr.com) (192.168.57.1) by home with SMTP; 6 Jul 2011 00:33:27 -0000 Original-Received: by rgr.rgrjr.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0478AA4AF2; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:33:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4E06FBEA.6010202@gmx.at> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 24.0.50.1 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:34:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48049 Archived-At: From: martin rudalics Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:29:14 +0200 > The problem is that C-x 4 b now creates a new frame to display the > buffer, instead of creating or reusing a window in the current frame. > This can be reproduced by typing "C-x 4 b" as the first thing in a fresh > "emacs -Q"; you will see the *Messages* buffer opened in a new frame. > > This is in emacs trunk via git last updated today at 21:59:08 UTC. Here a new window pops up . . . I updated again via git at 5-Jul-11 23:51 UTC, and can no longer reproduce this behavior; C-x 4 b seems to work as it always has. Thanks for investigating. If Emacs can't split a window I currently make a new frame because the doc-string of `switch-to-buffer-other-window' explicitly says that "The selected window will be used only if there is no other choice" and making a new frame _is_ another choice. If people think that reusing the selected window is a better choice I can easily do that. Thanks, martin I have no opinion; I rarely use more than two windows per frame, so there's plenty of room. Thanks again, -- Bob Rogers