From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: SHA, MD, and openssl Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 23:02:35 +0100 Message-ID: <1994736.lRbPL8bgM1@descartes> References: <83mwkbyw6v.fsf@gnu.org> <52A4DE34.7060407@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386626587 4584 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2013 22:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 22:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 09 23:03:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vq8v2-0003FF-8u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 23:03:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46098 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vq8v1-0006aq-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:03:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vq8us-0006Zz-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:03:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vq8um-0008Fu-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:03:02 -0500 Original-Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:50687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vq8ug-0008D2-LQ; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:02:50 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2398A22848; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:02:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Original-Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YF1MqW7u3ji1; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:02:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B2A9221D8; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:02:46 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: KMail/4.11.2 (Linux/3.11.0-12-generic; KDE/4.11.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <52A4DE34.7060407@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 178.63.28.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166236 Archived-At: On Sunday 08 December 2013 13:01:40 Paul Eggert wrote: > As for as license, Emacs is linking against a library > that is normally distributed with the major components of > the operating system, so that part of the GPL applies. The license comments on gnu.org explicitly say, it is not compatible wi= th the=20 GPL > The license of OpenSSL is a conjunction of two licenses, one of t= hem > being the license of SSLeay. You must follow both. The combinatio= n > results in a copyleft free software license that is incompatible = with > the GNU GPL. It also has an advertising clause like the original = BSD > license and the Apache 1 license. > =20 > We recommend using GNUTLS instead of OpenSSL in software you writ= e. > However, there is no reason not to use OpenSSL and applications t= hat > work with OpenSSL. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpenSSL That would mean distributions like Debian would not be able to ship Ema= cs with=20 OpenSSL support. E.g., Debian's git package does not support SSL becau= se of=20 this problem. Using GNUTLS would also make more sense because it is al= ready=20 an (optional) dependency of Emacs. Regards, R=C3=BCdiger