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Decades ago I opted for "POP3" because "IMAP" (= at >>>> least then) was unable to do things the way I wanted them done. >>> >>> Notmuch doesn't do much: it doesn't do any internet protocols. It's >>> basically just a database and a command-line tool for that. Other tools >>> are needed, like "fetchmail" or some IMAP synchronizing tool for getting >>> the mail, Notmuch for indexing and searching the mail files, Notmuch >>> Emacs (or other client) for user interface and mail sending (SMTP). >>> >>> Notmuch Emacs client can be configured to join the parts together but >>> user must write a "hook script" for getting the mail and putting the >>> files in the right place. The script could handle spam filtering, for >>> example. Mine uses "bogofilter" for spam and does some mail tagging like >>> adding "mute" or "follow" tags for mail I don't want or want to see. >> >> I want to add that Notmuch much doesn't do pop but using either a POP3 s= ynchronizing client >> or a client synchronizes against IMAP will pretty much keep your POP3 >> centered workflow. >> However if you also use IMAP it gets messy or at least conflicts with >> the server centered workflow as Notmuch only indexes emails from a file >> system and not against an IMAP server. > > I have it runnung with both several POP and IMAP accounts without any > problem. Of course it works but using IMAP by downloading every email and indexing them locally (one way only?) pretty much turns IMAP into a more modern version of POP3.