From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default for the envelope From in smtpmail.el Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:42:24 -0700 Message-ID: <19713425-C419-4A09-8D66-24717D761FE8@mit.edu> References: <0xwr16rzz5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83zk62c56n.fsf@gnu.org> <1usjbt9uzm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87628pj727.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344732156 10268 80.91.229.3 (12 Aug 2012 00:42:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 12 02:42:37 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T0MGJ-0003yy-Vz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:42:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56277 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T0MGJ-0006hf-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35159) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T0MGG-0006ha-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T0MGE-0000Z4-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu ([18.9.25.14]:48391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T0MGE-0000Yn-Hh; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:30 -0400 X-AuditID: 1209190e-b7fb56d0000008b2-b7-5026fbf5275c Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 45.F8.02226.5FBF6205; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id q7C0gTKm020733; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.0.128] ([12.198.236.170]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id q7C0gPMv020727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:42:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87628pj727.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrNIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrfv1t1qAwfMp0haPFzxhtehdeJLZ on36WUYHZo+2aWYee97dYAlgiuKySUnNySxLLdK3S+DKePeqk7XgMmtF86TfrA2M21m6GDk5 JARMJNqez2eDsMUkLtxbD2RzcQgJ7GOUeHX3IyOEs4FR4t7u88wQzkomie7Du5hAWpgFtCRu /HsJZvMK6EnMbp8DNJaDQ1jAUmLXWzMQk01ABmiqBkgFp4C5xIWGaWCLWQRUJR6+/cUKMcVY YvfSD8wQtrzE9rdzmCEmWkkcW3UC7DghgR2MEl3/qkBsEaBNF559ZYI4Wlbi++HzbBMYBWch OWgWkoNmIRm7gJF5FaNsSm6Vbm5iZk5xarJucXJiXl5qka6xXm5miV5qSukmRnAYS/LtYPx6 UOkQowAHoxIPL/dPtQAh1sSy4srcQ4ySHExKory7XgKF+JLyUyozEosz4otKc1KLDzFKcDAr ifDOmgSU401JrKxKLcqHSUlzsCiJ815JuekvJJCeWJKanZpakFoEk5Xh4FCS4JUExquQYFFq empFWmZOCUKaiYMTZDgP0HAekBre4oLE3OLMdIj8KUZFKXHez7+AEgIgiYzSPLheWJp5xSgO 9IowLy9IOw8wRcF1vwIazAQ0+DsH2OCSRISUVANjpH3kobeaF4yfaPre+rZvsqLiq7r7087v bY5SKJ3h+aKq4JJDe6uD6N4jbQn5i9/afHp340WVy5pfp6/Fvv2lf07V7tp++/l/j6zaevbG leRT5x14wzRn1aXuZ0ieO9/zp1xHLePMgx9jjwpLvzy3Nzft1KUj9VeeaE/5Psvt X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 18.9.25.14 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152446 Archived-At: On 11 Aug 2012, at 17:19, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Now you send it. The envelope from address (which is used eg for the >> MAIL FROM command sent to the stmp server) should default to whatever >> was in the From: header. > > This is a bad idea. Emacs should set the envelope address only on > specific request from the user. Provide an easily customized option, > yes. Default, no. The default is to let the MTA figure it out. I suspect that Glenn is talking about the case where Emacs is pretending to be an MTA. Then again, I might be wrong. The large number of possible mail configurations for emacs makes these conversations tricky. *Chad