From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 13:18:57 +0200 Message-ID: <195739EE-F260-4A84-A1F4-000757385A23@Web.DE> References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> <85odl0ulv4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178363996 23184 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 11:19:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 13:19:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkIIs-00083E-3I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 13:19:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkIPb-0004I8-Fp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:26:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkIPN-0004HA-V5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkIPM-0004E7-Fy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkIPM-0004Dx-CV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HkIIb-0006bP-0k; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:19:37 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC507941453; Sat, 5 May 2007 13:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [62.134.225.73] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.108 #197) id 1HkII0-00088t-00; Sat, 05 May 2007 13:19:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <85odl0ulv4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+wGLY/F852r+R+0fwdWJm5GpgKNY0z+k+DJAeD PjJMHVFafvAbO99W16TYqaH0jI9v9qhruIOXDR9mkx0wbkNaGU +lEjjbG8d3LROyqRtY5Q== X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43731 Archived-At: Am 05.05.2007 um 02:58 schrieb David Kastrup: > Well, I had the doubtful pleasure of getting to try showing someone on > a conference how to work with it. What a piece of crock. C-x 3 and > your window splits vertically, showing the same buffer in both > windows. So far, so good. C-x b and a separate frame opens. C-x 4 b > and another frame opens. It is impossible to actually switch buffers > in one of the vertically aligned windows: instead new frames open > every time. > > After a while, I give up on it and tell the person to get and install > Carbonemacs which is supposed to be less "Maclike", a euphemism for > "braindead" that more likely than not is unjust to Apple. Aquamacs Emacs seems indeed to be stuck in the farthest end of a dead-=20= end street: recently it stopped working completely when my ~/.emacs =20 file (for versions 20...23, running with or without windows) is =20 present (of course it has its own preferences files hidden here and =20 there and elsewhere). It just loops endlessly (but *I* don't let it =20 that long!). Maybe this lack of backward compatibility is its =20 particular Mac likeliness. And this might be in the diagonally away =20 corner of Apple's HID (Human Interface Definition guide line). (At =20 least there was an option to make it create new frames only when its =20 user wishes this.) -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, =20 and those who cannot.