From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Locks on the Bzr repository Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:25:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19573.31824.591000.928926@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <4C6D56DB.7040703@swipnet.se> <4C6D8EC5.7040901@swipnet.se> <4C6E1F0A.7070506@swipnet.se> <837hjlr78p.fsf@gnu.org> <87zkwhtws5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83tymppj62.fsf@gnu.org> <871v9t8klf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83lj81pazq.fsf@gnu.org> <83aaogpcbu.fsf@gnu.org> <87vd737pxd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83pqxboi38.fsf@gnu.org> <19568.59349.718000.978281@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19570.10774.921000.853692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282767968 17801 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2010 20:26:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 22:26:06 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoMXu-0005EO-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:26:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57108 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoMXt-00025M-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:26:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35453 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoMXo-00025G-Cc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:26:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoMXm-0000HU-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from sun60.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.137]:52900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoMXm-0000HC-F7; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:25:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun60.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OoMXi-0001OF-OC; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:25:54 +0100 Original-Received: from mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.192.53]) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoMXi-0003io-EJ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:25:54 +0100 Original-Received: from acws-0068.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.194.56]) by mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1OoMXh-0005lF-RT; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:25:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.92a under 22.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129227 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I don't know enough to have an opinion about the substance of the > question, but it is clear that you need to argue for this in a Bzr > discussion group. Discussing it here means, in effect, asking me to > convey it to them -- and using me as middleman for an issue I only > barely understand is not very effective. Oh, it has been discussed in the Bazaar discussion group. Look for "rebase" in this listing: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar/2010q1/thread.html I am sure that these kinds of technical discussions would have happened myriads of times. I think the point where your help is needed is in impressing upon them that gnu projects like Emacs are having to choose inefficient and time-consuming workflows because bazaar does not support rebase. If rebase were available, Emacs developers can learn to use it correctly, and use more efficient workflows. So, they are imposting a cost on the rest of us. Cheers, Uday