From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:57:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k4nv7t72.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281650285 9908 80.91.229.12 (12 Aug 2010 21:58:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , Chong Yidong , Lennart Borgman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 12 23:58:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ojfme-0003oN-D0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:57:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43674 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ojfmd-0003Ro-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40447 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjfmY-0003Qa-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjfmW-0001AC-VQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:57:50 -0400 Original-Received: from sun61.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.150]:54485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjfmW-00019l-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:57:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun61.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OjfmR-0007IC-PE; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:57:43 +0100 Original-Received: from mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.192.53]) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjfmR-00057I-FM; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:57:43 +0100 Original-Received: from gromit.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.193.16] helo=MARUTI.cs.bham.ac.uk) by mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1OjfmO-0000nU-OF; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:57:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.92a under 23.2.1 [EmacsW32 Version 1.58 2010-08-02] (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128583 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > Many of them do quite useful things, see for example > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7#Keyboard_shortcuts Hi guys, I am not sure where this discussion is headed. Whether these applications of the windows key are "useful" or not is for the users to determine, is it not? The same web page also mentions that, Linuxen call the key the "meta" or "super" key. So, it is not unreasonable to request that we should have the option under Windows too? We are talking about providing the users with a choice between - keyboard access to Emacs's own menus, and - the fancy applications for a pair of modifier keys that Microsoft dreamt up of as justification for putting its own trademark on them. Is that choice so hard to understand? - Uday Perplexed