From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:08:59 +0100 Message-ID: <19546.61483.708000.265768@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.49448.125000.756012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281029324 11612 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 17:28:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Drew Adams , Juanma Barranquero To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 05 19:28:22 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh4Et-00040M-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:28:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45020 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh4Es-0008OD-FX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:28:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44772 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh3wQ-00066b-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:09:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh3wI-0004V5-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from sun60.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.137]:59031) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh3wI-0004Um-Et for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:09:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun60.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh3wG-0006ay-No; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:09:04 +0100 Original-Received: from mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.192.53]) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh3wG-0003MG-Dw; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:09:04 +0100 Original-Received: from gromit.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.193.16] helo=MARUTI.cs.bham.ac.uk) by mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Oh3wF-0001tb-DP; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:09:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.92a under 23.2.1 [EmacsW32 Version 1.58 2010-08-02] (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128310 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > > > I can either press Alt and then F to open the file menu. Can you? > > => I can't either press Alt and then F to open the file menu. After discussing this with Lennart, it turns out that he uses a feature called "sticky keys" in Windows which allows him to type `Alt' and `f' separately to send the Alt+F (or Alt-f) event. Emacs is currently not interpreting this type of an event (except by mapping it to Meta-f via the w32-alt-is-meta setting). But the interpretation needed for a Windows user is to activate the menubar item that begins with "f" (e.g., the File menu). Pressing `Alt' and `f' separately doesn't work for Lennart because he uses sticky keys. I hope that clarifies the conflusion. Lennart needs the Alt+character events interpreted by Emacs to access the menus via keyboard. Cheers, Uday