From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: <19546.49448.125000.756012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281026408 32504 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 16:40:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Drew Adams , Juanma Barranquero To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 05 18:40:02 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh3UA-0003Sy-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:40:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33450 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh2tt-0004gp-6z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58811 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh2jg-0002J7-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh2j0-0000nl-Mk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from sun60.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.137]:53138) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh2j0-0000lx-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:51:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun60.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh0oS-0006nT-Mv; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:48:48 +0100 Original-Received: from mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.192.53]) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh0oS-0004q3-D2; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:48:48 +0100 Original-Received: from gromit.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.193.16] helo=MARUTI.cs.bham.ac.uk) by mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Oh0oR-0007lZ-Bf; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:48:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.92a under 23.2.1 [EmacsW32 Version 1.58 2010-08-02] (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128294 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > You can not override Alt-TAB so that you can use it to switch w32 > windows is because ms has decided it to work that way. > > However in Emacs META-TAB is frequently used for completion functions. > That can not work on w32 (and with some other window managers if I > understood it correctly). Indeed, I have gotten used to doing ESC-TAB for completion, which is a bit of a chore I admit. Ok, so, it is quite useful to remap the Windows key but it doesn't seem criticial. > >I can momentarily depress Alt to activate the menubar. > > Can you? Please give more details. I was trying to recall if I did anything special to get it but couldn't. So, I looked up O'Reilly's Windows XP in a Nutshell. It says under "Keyboard Accelerators", "In any any window that has a menu, press the Alt key or the F10 key to active the manu bar, and use the cursor keys to move around. Press Enter to activate the currently selected item or Esc to cancel." Then it goes on to talk about using Alt+letter to go directly to a particular menu. What I can't do in Emacs is the latter. I can't press Alt+F to go the File menu. In Firefox/Thunderbird, I can. To me personally, that is not a big price to pay. You might think otherwise. Cheers, Uday