From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:03:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19267.87.538073.863392@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20091228170401.GA4553@muc.de> <4B3939AB.7070501@harpegolden.net> <20091229200832.GA5097@muc.de> <20091229205734.GB5097@muc.de> <4B3A957B.9050106@harpegolden.net> <20091231120648.GA2801@muc.de> <4B3CD9A9.9030705@harpegolden.net> <20100103173342.GA1653@muc.de> <87bphbf3zy.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <20100103215647.GC1653@muc.de> <87637i709n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262682272 26023 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2010 09:04:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 10:04:25 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from terminus-est.gnu.org ([66.92.78.210] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NS5Kv-0000Cm-1T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:04:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55074 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NS5Ku-00020Z-Ke for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:04:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NS5KR-0001zk-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:03:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NS5KH-0001z4-Jw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:03:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48222 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NS5KD-0001yg-US for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:34680) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NS5KA-0006pB-GO; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:03:34 -0500 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o0593JOt021575; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:03:20 +0100 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o0593J5u013686; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:03:19 +0100 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o0593Jn8013683; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:03:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ocl9wqjp.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12 under 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119418 Archived-At: [Apologies for being off-topic in emacs-devel, but I think that I must answer this.] >>>>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010, Richard Stallman writes: > If you use Gentoo, you have to work really hard to avoid installing > non-free software. Do you know this from first experience, or is it only hearsay? > Someone recently told me that some innocent-sounding package pulled > in some non-free fonts, and he found out about this because the font > package wanted him to agree to an EULA. This is clearly not intended behaviour, and the person should have reported a bug to the Gentoo bugtracker. Generally, we have a Social Contract (similar to Debian's) that says that Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software unless it conforms to a free licence. [1] Also, the newest version of our package manager, portage-2.2, introduced an "ACCEPT_LICENSE" feature that allow users to filter packages by their licence. For example, with the following setting: ACCEPT_LICENSE="@FSF-APPROVED @OSI-APPROVED" the package manager would only see packages whose licences have been approved by the FSF or the OSI (the sets of licences being defined in [2]). Ulrich [1] [2]