From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David PONCE Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift Tab should move backward in help buffers Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19234151.1119853459145.JavaMail.www@wwinf1508> Reply-To: david.ponce@wanadoo.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119855418 869 80.91.229.2 (27 Jun 2005 06:56:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 27 08:56:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DmnXO-00075Z-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:56:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dmney-0006n8-DS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dmn6i-0003cB-0h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dmn6b-0003Vq-DQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:28:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dmn6a-0003PL-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:28:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.252.23.84] (helo=smtp15.wanadoo.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dmn6i-0005ZI-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1503.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27BF87000082 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wwinf1508 (wwinf1508 [172.22.146.51]) by mwinf1503.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 251CA7000081; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:19 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050627062419152.251CA7000081@mwinf1503.wanadoo.fr Original-To: hunterd_42@comcast.net X-Originating-IP: [205.167.7.18] X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-CC: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39622 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39622 Hello, >> Please notice that on my Compacq Evo N610c laptop running Fedora Core >> 3 GNU/Linux the and keys seem to not exist. There >> is a instead. Perhaps this key could be added to? > > > Does this mean that C-h k (Shift Tab) reports ? It seems > you're running emacs in X, so you should see " (translated from > )" if the active keymap binds to a command. > Unless you're using table-mode or org-mode, which bind > explicitly. You're right. In fact I had an explicit global key binding to in my start-up file, so I didn't see anymore the key. I changed to use instead of and it works now. However I also have a global key binding to which doesn't work, I only see . I also tried without any user's configuration: emacs -Q C-h k reported: (translated from ) is undefined is undefined ESC (translated from ) is undefined ESC (translated from ) is undefined Is it the expected behavior? IMHO, with the control key, backtab should report for consistency. WDYT? Thanks. Sincerely, David In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.4.14) of 2005-06-26 on localhost X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000 configured using `configure '--with-gtk' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t