From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Displaying bytes Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:16:46 +0100 Message-ID: <19215.6766.874975.751058@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20091119155848.GB1314@muc.de> <87aayiihe9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20091119180848.GE1314@muc.de> <47325.130.55.118.19.1258658705.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <20091119212550.GG1314@muc.de> <87my2ign8u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <912155b0911231334s2b52e8eq864251c9aed386b3@mail.gmail.com> <19212.50000.813691.415803@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <87hbsg99jw.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259281034 1889 80.91.229.12 (27 Nov 2009 00:17:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa To: Reiner Steib Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 01:17:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDoWE-00015j-8t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:17:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35921 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDoWD-0002eR-KU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:17:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDoW7-0002e2-7F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:16:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDoW2-0002bH-NG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41464 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDoW2-0002bE-Hi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:16:50 -0500 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:59850) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDoW2-0007jr-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:16:50 -0500 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nAR0GlD2025939; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:16:47 +0100 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nAR0GlaG023480; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:16:47 +0100 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAR0GkXS023477; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:16:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87hbsg99jw.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12 under 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117838 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Reiner Steib wrote: >>> I'm not sure. As it seems that windows-1252 is a superset of >>> iso-8859-1, > It is, yes. They are identical, except for the range from 0x80 to 0x9f, where ISO-8859-1 assigns control characters [1]. Look into the log file of an xterm (TERM=xterm-8bit) and you'll see them. >> I wonder why one would even *think* of changing Emacs's default to >> a Microsoft proprietary "code page". :-( > Just because it has "windows" in its name? IIRC it is registered at > IANA. Yes, in the "vendor" range [2], together with all variants of EBCDIC that ever existed. ;-) Whereas ISO-8859-1 is an official ISO standard. Ulrich [1] ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/ISO8859/8859-1.TXT [2] http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets