From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.mail.mh-e.devel Subject: Re: mh-e/mh-acros.el advices `require' incorrectly Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:20:41 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <1906.1137471641@olgas.newt.com> References: <837.1137190309@olgas.newt.com> <87vewmifds.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <4375.1137374996@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137471662 21015 80.91.229.2 (17 Jan 2006 04:21:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 17 05:20:59 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EyiL1-0004Gt-QJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:20:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EyiNL-0006M5-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EyiNB-0006Lz-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EyiNA-0006Ln-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EyiNA-0006Lk-42 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:23:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.69.195.67] (helo=pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EyiQl-00052P-8S; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:26:51 -0500 Original-Received: from h-68-165-6-145.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.165.6.145] helo=olgas.newt.com) by pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EyiKn-0004XL-00; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:20:41 -0500 Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADF3E16FD9; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:20:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgas.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA32C16F5D; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:20:41 -0800 (PST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: "Richard M. Stallman"'s message of Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:24:58 EST. X-Mailer: MH-E 7.85+cvs; nmh 1.1; GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49199 gmane.mail.mh-e.devel:11343 Archived-At: Richard M. Stallman wrote: > I don't understand 100% of the plan, but it looks like a good plan > overall. Thanks for the feedback. > 2. Make mh-utils.el a pure "utility" package. I'm thinking chunks could > go into mh-xface.el and mh-scan.el (taking stuff from mh-e.el too). > We would then create files for each of the modes. We now already have > mh-search.el, so I'd propose mh-show.el and mh-folder.el, maybe > renaming mh-comp.el to mh-letter.el for consistency. Move > mh-modify to mh-funcs.el where it belongs. > > 6. Limit scope of variables to just the file in which it is defined. > If necessary, provide access to variables via functions that are > found in mh-loaddefs.el. > > I think these two are be necessary to solve the present problem, and > could substantially increase the amount of change. It might be better > not to do these changes now. Maybe. I'm investigating it right now since it seems that every day we uncover a new problem associated with the current mess. It's extremely brittle. The changes will either work or they won't. If they do, I think it would actually add to the stability of the release to check in the changes. I'll let you know how it goes. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.