From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-x C-v considered harmful Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:06 -0400 Message-ID: <19030.48626.490071.375760@rgr.rgrjr.com> References: <19020.2798.523236.406366@rgr.rgrjr.com> <72597301DECF498C8943373F597732A6@us.oracle.com> <19021.23100.86775.844823@rgr.rgrjr.com> <19022.27409.779079.636945@rgr.rgrjr.com> <87vdm5xqpv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <2F7C63D7187F4B44A095A4D99C86AF6F@us.oracle.com> <8763e42dhl.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ws6ipxy7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <331B2F5CF78F4411A0F1471D4B70B3AC@us.oracle.com> <87iqi1pkwo.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87iqi1mq48.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <610B7158FDE64977962E66813A94770E@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247198815 14310 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2009 04:06:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juri Linkov' , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 10 06:06:47 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MP7Ni-00031o-NC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:06:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32814 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MP7Ni-0006v0-6S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:06:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MP7MO-0006OL-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MP7MJ-0006Lb-AB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39695 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MP7MI-0006LO-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rgrjr.com ([216.146.47.5]:50594) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MP7MI-0005yC-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rgrjr.dyndns.org (c-66-30-196-77.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [66.30.196.77]) by rgrjr.com (Postfix on CentOS) with ESMTP id E5699160123 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 29254 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jul 2009 04:05:08 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO rgr.rgrjr.com) (192.168.57.1) by home with SMTP; 10 Jul 2009 04:05:08 -0000 Original-Received: by rgr.rgrjr.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 04CAE4862E; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <610B7158FDE64977962E66813A94770E@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: VM viewmail-600 under 23.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112268 Archived-At: From: "Drew Adams" Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:21:49 -0700 > I have no opinion about a more general option. Nor I. Personally, I think I would be content if we added a query only for active process buffers. . . . FWIW, I've been taking advantage of `kill-buffer''s lack of query for process buffers as a _feature_, to avoid having to type `yes' (or is it `y'?) when I kill Emacs to confirm that I want to kill any active processes. I've gotten in the habit of using `C-x k' or `C-x C-v' when I'm through with a *shell* buffer, for instance. (Yes, I realize that's as much typing as `yes'/`y', but it somehow feels less annoying.) ;-) I just type "quit RET" to the shell. And if I'm in an SSH session with open tunneled connections, it won't exit immediately, so I'm reminded that I have other state to take care of before doing C-x C-c. -- Bob