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From: Bob Rogers <rogers-emacs@rgrjr.dyndns.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: C-x C-v considered harmful
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:39:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19025.18385.166444.706321@rgr.rgrjr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AEA1A00FFB574128B23E5DDE3DB14F54@us.oracle.com>

   From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
   Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:13:36 -0700

   . . .

   >    And as you mentioned, `find-alternate-file' tests `(and
   >    (buffer-modified-p) (buffer-file-name))'. I agree with you that the
   >    problem you are seeing is coming from `(buffer-file-name)' 
   >    being nil, and that removing that might be an improvement.
   > 
   > As far as I am concerned, removing "(buffer-file-name)" would be
   > sufficient.

   We agree, modulo my wanting to be able to drop modified read-only
   buffers without warning. Another way to look at that is that those
   buffers typically do not have undo, which is another indication that
   we don't expect their contents to be something we want to worry about
   saving . . .

That would be even better, isn't it?  Absence of "undo" ought to be a
more reliable indication of which buffers are considered unlikely to
have state the user might regret trashing by accident.  What do you
think of querying only for modified buffers with undo enabled?

   I notice that this rule would query for Dired buffers, but only after
the user has started marking files.  And as soon as the user types "g",
the (buffer-modified-p) flag is cleared again.  This all strikes me as
correct behavior.

   In any case, you have convinced me that "C-x k" and "C-x C-v" should
have the same querying behavior.

					-- Bob




  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-06  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02  1:18 C-x C-v considered harmful Bob Rogers
2009-07-02  2:39 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-02  3:10   ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-02  6:48   ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-07-02 15:17     ` Drew Adams
2009-07-03  1:09       ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-03  3:19         ` Drew Adams
2009-07-03 20:33           ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-03 22:23             ` Drew Adams
2009-07-04 23:16               ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-05  7:13                 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-06  0:39                   ` Bob Rogers [this message]
2009-07-06  1:40                     ` Drew Adams
2009-07-07 10:39                       ` Johan Bockgård
2009-07-05 10:18                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 14:56                   ` Drew Adams
2009-07-05  0:05               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05  7:10                 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-06 15:05                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 15:59                     ` Drew Adams
2009-07-07 10:05                       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 12:04                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-07-06 23:49                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-07  1:07                   ` Drew Adams
2009-07-08  0:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-08 23:28                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 16:09                         ` Drew Adams
2009-07-09 22:10                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 22:26                             ` Drew Adams
2009-07-09 22:46                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 23:21                                 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-10  4:05                                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-13 20:05                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-16 21:57                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-03  2:40       ` M Jared Finder
2009-07-03  2:57         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03 19:23         ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-03 20:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-03 20:56           ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03 13:55     ` Markus Triska
2009-07-05 22:15       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-05 22:42         ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-11 10:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-14  2:45             ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-14 18:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-02 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier

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