From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: process-attributes patch Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:39:21 +0100 Message-ID: <18825.14361.359520.913289@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <87tz7bup30.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233729592 31314 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2009 06:39:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 04 07:41:06 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LUbRa-0004fl-4d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:41:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUbQH-0003Cw-CX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:39:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUbQ9-0003Cj-GW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUbQ7-0003CX-Ju for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:39:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46829 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUbQ7-0003CU-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:39:35 -0500 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:38827) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUbQ4-000484-Nq; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:39:33 -0500 Original-Received: from a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.75]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n146dMlM024731; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:39:22 +0100 Original-Received: from a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n146dMxQ029661; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:39:22 +0100 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id n146dL5M029656; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:39:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tz7bup30.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.2-487 under Emacs 22.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108716 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009, Miles Bader wrote: >> I generally agree with the change, but I think it comes a bit late. >> Can't it wait for 23.2? > The only problem with delaying name changes past a release is that > user code starts to use old name. Please note that Gentoo already uses system-process-attributes in some code [1], which is still marked as experimental (and "package masked"). Presumably things will be marked as stable some time after the Emacs 23.1 release. It would spare us some hassle if that name was _not_ changed between 23.1 and 23.2. > If it is deemed to dangerous for this release, we could add a > (defalias 'process-attributes 'system-process-attributes) and update > the documentation to use that name, so that any user code uses the > new name. Ulrich [1]