From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#737: vc-dir reports unregistered-then-deleted file is "up-to-date" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:12:07 +1300 Message-ID: <18665.54888.18653.725178@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <18600.37952.844941.609726@rgrjr.rgrjr.dyndns.org> <200810040538.m945cRWl025789@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050104.m9514rDt028153@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050224.m952OBGw028267@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810060033.m960X1L9001223@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <5vprmemb3k.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <200810060753.m967rsdr002713@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Nick Roberts , 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223285445 15846 80.91.229.12 (6 Oct 2008 09:30:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:30:45 +0000 (UTC) To: Dan Nicolaescu , 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 06 11:31:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KmmRF-0003kt-TP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:31:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmmQC-0007bJ-Dq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:30:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KmmPj-0007Si-QS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KmmPg-0007RW-Ri for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54265 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmmPg-0007RM-A9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:30:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:35256) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KmmPf-0008EH-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:30:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m969TvhV004154; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 02:29:57 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m969K20v001732; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 02:20:02 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Nick Roberts Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 737 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 737-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B737.1223284336478 (code B ref 737); Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 737) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Oct 2008 09:12:16 +0000 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.25]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m969CBSh000472 for <737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 02:12:13 -0700 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (142.31.255.123.static.snap.net.nz [123.255.31.142]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A833DA1C5; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:12:11 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E1E8F8FC6D; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:12:08 +1300 (NZDT) In-Reply-To: <200810060753.m967rsdr002713@mothra.ics.uci.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.3.1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:30:02 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21161 Archived-At: > ...On the other hand, there was exactly > one person asking for the current default behavior. Assuming that I'm the one constantly referred to in the third person in your e-mails, note that in reply to one of your earlier e-mails, Stefan Monnier said this: I disagree. The "stay-local" should be the default. It is tremendously useful (think of the case where you're not connected to your repository). The non-stay-local behavior is the one whose usefulness is debatable (after all, most new VCS don't bother offering a clean equivalent). (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-06/msg00239.html) There may have been others who disagreed with you but, in any case, it's certainly not "exactly one". Your intolerance of other points of view diminishes the value of the significant contribution that you have made. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob