From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: sand@blarg.net Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Heavy display problems with new font backend Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:59:04 -0700 Message-ID: <18445.25224.874018.531866@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> References: <87hcdy6srx.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <4809F8AC.8000802@gnu.org> <87skxgbtlm.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208838402 12615 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2008 04:26:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Hansen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 06:27:16 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JoA65-0002Z1-DN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:27:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoA5C-0004yC-UR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:26:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoA5A-0004y2-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:26:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoA51-0004xU-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoA51-0004xR-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:26:07 -0400 Original-Received: from v-static-143-234.avvanta.com ([206.124.143.234] helo=priss.frightenedpiglet.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JoA4x-0005XU-RG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:26:07 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 3497 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Apr 2008 03:59:05 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87skxgbtlm.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.9 under Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-URL: http://home.blarg.net/~sand X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Greylist: delayed 1559 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at monty-python; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:25:24 EDT X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95738 Archived-At: David Hansen writes: > Looks far better with disabled font backend: > > http://www.alice-dsl.net/david.hansen/comb.png A fellow Neep Alt-er! Have you also tried the Neep Alt ISO10646-1 registry fonts from Debian's xfonts-jmk package? When I use the ISO10646 fonts with the new font backend, Emacs seems to think that the font is missing large quantities of codepoints. Left and right quotes, for example, show up using double-width Chinese fonts. I'm curious whether other people see the same thing. Since the whole Neep Alt ISO10646 font collection is a hack (it's Neep Alt ISO8859-1 superimposed on Misc-Fixed ISO10646), there's always a chance that there's something wrong in the font itself, but everything shows up just fine in xterm. When I have the time I'm planning on digging into Xft as the next suspect. Derek -- Derek Upham sand@blarg.net