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From: Bob Rogers <rogers-emacs@rgrjr.dyndns.org>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Cruise Control to mitigate failure in make bootstrap?
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:22:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18434.27514.348723.957389@rgrjr.rgrjr.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4800C111.3090407@gnu.org>

   From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
   Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:02:57 +0100

   Alan Mackenzie wrote:
   > I have used this product in one of my day jobs, and it works well.

   I suspect it works well in a day job environment, when you are working 
   for the same 8 hours a day as the other developers on the project.  I 
   suspect it works less well for Free Software where volunteers might have 
   a half hour to spare so they fix a bug, don't have time to do a full 
   bootstrap before checking in, then might not see any mail generated 
   because they are offline for the weekend.

Another case is where a commit breaks on a platform the committer does
not have; the smoke system alerts potential fixers in a timely way.
This seems more likely on a Free project than a proprietary one.

   FWIW, the Perl community calls this "smoke testing" [1], and has been
using it successfully for a number of subprojects [2].  I can't claim
great familiarity with it, but I think the value increases with the
coverage of the automated test suite.

					-- Bob Rogers
					   http://rgrjr.dyndns.org/

[1] http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?smoke_testing

[2] E.g. http://smoke.parrotcode.org/smoke/




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-13 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-12 10:48 Cruise Control to mitigate failure in make bootstrap? Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 14:02 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-12 15:38   ` aaditya sood
2008-04-12 16:51   ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-13 20:22   ` Bob Rogers [this message]
2008-04-12 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier

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