From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Obsolete functions and variables Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:02:36 +1200 Message-ID: <18432.2604.646836.981601@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <18429.40810.598948.654442@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18430.39543.722541.830806@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207962186 18107 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 01:03:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 03:03:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkU9Y-0008SJ-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:03:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkU8v-0000Mm-4p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:02:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkU8q-0000MN-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkU8m-0000LV-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkU8l-0000LS-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:02:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.25] helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkU8h-0001RG-2b; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (23.31.255.123.static.snap.net.nz [123.255.31.23]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF313DA292; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:02:39 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88D1F8FC6D; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:02:37 +1200 (NZST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.2.50.1 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95008 Archived-At: > I guess the dangers generally outweigh the advantages but there's not > much point in marking them obsolete if they're never going to be > removed. > > I think that is incorrect. It is useful to urge people to make their > code use more modern interfaces regardless of whether we ever delete > the old ones. In that case, perhaps the macros should have been called define-deprecated-variable-alias and define-deprecated-function-alias. The word obsolete has a pretty clear meaning and is misleading when used in this way. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob