From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC state Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:52:11 +1200 Message-ID: <18428.15723.176227.750017@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <200804061740.m36Hemw8021394@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200804082045.m38KjG5p029421@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200804090307.m3937emd022768@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207713297 17986 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2008 03:54:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 03:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 05:55:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjRPB-0003c0-TW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:55:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjROY-0001wo-JZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:54:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjROU-0001wj-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:54:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjROT-0001wW-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:54:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjROS-0001wT-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.25] helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjROS-0002IC-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (43.31.255.123.static.snap.net.nz [123.255.31.43]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78A83D9868; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:54:21 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6804B8FC6D; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:52:15 +1200 (NZST) In-Reply-To: <200804090307.m3937emd022768@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.2.50.1 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94752 Archived-At: > > I don't see it as particularly experimental: it's what I now use as > > a replacement for PCL-CVS when I use Bzr. > > So can the experimental label be removed then? > How about binding vc-status to C-x v d so that it gets more exposure? > What is the plan for vc-dired? > When can it be removed? > IMO it does not make sense to keep code for two different > implementations of the same thing, it just adds complexity to the code. Any "experimental label" is in the mind, so consider it already removed. If vc-status is meant to be an improved replacement for vc-dired then it seems reasonable to me that it takes the binding 'C-x v d'. However, I still use vc-dired so I think it's unreasonable to remove vc-dired until vc-status does everything better. I've only briefly looked at vc-status but here are a few things that I noticed: * vc-status doesn't seem to heed vc-stay-local or vc-cvs-stay-local. * The filenames are highlighted by the mouse but clicking mouse-2 doesn't visit the file in another buffer * The statuses are highlighted by the mouse but clicking mouse-2 doesn't do anything special * The bindings vc-status-previous/next-line are on the menubar as menu-items but no-one would ever use them from there. * I'm not sure if the keybindings are based on Dired or Pcl-cvs but they seem to be an unmemorable mix of upper and lowercase letters and other characters. * If Emacs can't connect with the server there is no message in the buffer or elsewhere to explain what has happened. * There is no description in the manual for vc-status. Indeed the node "VC Status" is about Log-View mode. * The mode name is "*VC Status*". I think the convention of enclosing names in asterisks is for buffer names only. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob