From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Lear Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Why I may not use emacs any more for coding Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:04:21 -0600 Message-ID: <18385.15701.931636.175130@lisa.zopyra.com> References: <18384.42609.332493.397051@lisa.zopyra.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204895144 29192 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 13:05:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan =?utf-8?Q?Bockg=C3=A5rd?=) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 14:06:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXcGI-00065E-In for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:05:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXcFk-0006hY-Px for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:04:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXcFf-0006do-DG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:04:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXcFe-0006cY-Ks for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:04:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXcFe-0006cM-G3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:04:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.zopyra.com ([65.68.225.25] helo=zopyra.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXcFd-00005Y-Oz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:04:42 -0500 Original-Received: (from rael@localhost) by zopyra.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id m27D4OE09679; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:04:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under Emacs 21.1.1 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17678 Archived-At: On Friday, March 7, 2008 at 12:00:34 (+0100) Johan =?utf-8?Q?Bockg=C3=A5rd?= writes: >Bill Lear writes: > >> When using emacs inside an xterm (emacs -nw) with viper-mode, I find >> an intolerable delay in the transition between editing and navigating >> modes (reminder: this is effected by pressing the ESC key while in >> editing mode). In vim/vi or in emacs outside of an xterm, I can >> effect this transition with such speed that my fingers need not pause >> after the ESC key is pressed before I begin my input of navigation >> keystrokes, whereas under an xterm if attempt this transition, it >> seems (based on observation only) that this takes AT LEAST 500 >> milliseconds --- easily enough time to enter a half-dozen navigation >> commands (up two lines and over four words: 'kkwwww'). Over the >> course of a typical edit cycle, this interruption has become more and >> more intolerable to me. > >Investigate `viper-ESC-keyseq-timeout' (and maybe >`viper-translate-all-ESC-keysequences' and `viper-no-multiple-ESC'). This looks like what I need. Many thanks for the quick reply. Bill