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From: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MAINTAINERS file
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:21:34 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18375.60094.959733.716249@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ir088d1y.fsf@red-bean.com>

 > Could you identify the specific problems you think might arise without
 > a MAINTAINERS file?

For a start there are now two maintainers instead of one, so it would be
helpful to know how their roles are divided.  I guess the MAINTAINERS file need
not contain any more than this.  OTOH, if Stefan and Yidong are not going to
maintain Emacs like Richard, i.e. with complete authority and complete
coverage, then authority needs to be devolved.  (Disclaimer: I have
no interest in becoming an area maintainer).

 > You use "chaotic" pejoratively, but I'm not necessarily convinced :-).
 > It really depends on the kind of chaos (if any).  Many projects
 > operate without area maintainers, and do just fine.  Having area
 > maintainers can lead to gumption-thwarting territoriality and
 > unnecessary power relationships (I'm not saying power relationships
 > are always bad, but unnecessary ones are).

Chaos is never favourable, although anarchy may sometimes be.  Someone has
to always arbitrate over any disagreement.

 > Let's wait until there's a problem before imposing a solution like
 > this.

Like what?  There always has been a power structure for Emacs but I guess up
till now it's been so simple that it didn't need writing down before.

-- 
Nick                                           http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-29 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-28 23:51 MAINTAINERS file Nick Roberts
2008-02-29  6:57 ` Karl Fogel
2008-02-29  7:05   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  9:57     ` Andreas Röhler
2008-02-29 10:30     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 11:25     ` Bastien
2008-02-29 11:32       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 11:50         ` Bastien Guerry
2008-02-29 11:56           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 12:05             ` Bastien
2008-02-29 12:11               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 11:53       ` Miles Bader
2008-03-01  1:00     ` Xavier Maillard
2008-02-29  8:05   ` Glenn Morris
2008-02-29 11:21   ` Nick Roberts [this message]
2008-02-29 22:34     ` Karl Fogel
2008-02-29 23:28       ` Karl Fogel
2008-02-29 23:31         ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-01  6:28       ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-01  9:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 15:52         ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-01 19:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 23:09         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-02  5:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-02 21:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-02 21:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03  3:20       ` Miles Bader
2008-03-03  4:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 12:55       ` Romain Francoise
2008-03-03 13:44         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 15:05           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 15:23             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 16:51           ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-03 17:01             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 17:32               ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-03 18:16                 ` Leo
2008-03-03 21:58                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 22:07                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-03 22:10                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 22:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 22:35                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 22:55                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 22:57                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-03 17:13             ` paul r
2008-03-04  0:56               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-04  2:09                 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-04 17:37                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-04 18:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-04 22:18                     ` Glenn Morris
2008-03-05 21:33                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 22:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05 22:33                           ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 17:14                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 17:21                               ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 18:12                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 20:14                                   ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-06 21:21                                     ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-07  0:10                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-03-07  4:10                                       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-07  3:09                                         ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06  2:25                           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-07  3:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05  0:17                   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-05  2:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05  3:11                       ` Miles Bader
2008-03-05  8:02                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-05 23:07                       ` Jason Earl
2008-03-06  8:33                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-06 19:09                           ` Jason Earl
2008-03-06 19:19                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-04 12:56                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-04 13:56                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-04 18:41                     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2008-03-04 20:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-04 20:28                         ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2008-03-04 22:48                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05 15:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-05 16:25                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-07  3:37                               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07  8:50                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-07  9:20                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-07 10:27                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-07 18:47                                       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-08  0:35                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-08  2:27                                           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-08  0:59                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-08  3:06                                               ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-08  1:43                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-09  2:17                                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 12:43                                           ` Davi Leal
2008-03-09 20:53                                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07 16:39                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-03-07 16:47                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-09  2:17                                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 23:34                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-10  8:15                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-10  9:11                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-10  9:23                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-10 11:50                                         ` Harsha
2008-03-10 12:05                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-11 13:41                                             ` Walter Franzini
2008-03-10 15:19                                         ` Gilaras Drakeson
2008-03-11  9:24                                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-10 17:16                                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07  9:16                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-09  2:18                                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 19:07                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-05  9:45                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-07  3:37                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 21:34                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-03 17:22             ` Bastien
2008-03-03 15:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 16:29       ` merging Emacs.app (was Re: MAINTAINERS file) Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-03 21:38         ` merging Emacs.app Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05  5:04           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-05 12:38             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-05 16:05               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-06  0:58                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-06  4:03                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-07  3:16                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-07  3:20                       ` Miles Bader
2008-03-08  3:43                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-08  3:46                           ` Miles Bader
2008-03-08  5:13                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-08 16:58                             ` David Reitter
2008-03-08 17:14                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 17:46                               ` David Reitter
2008-03-08 18:34                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 18:59                                   ` David Reitter
2008-03-08 22:01                                     ` The Aquamacs fork (was Re: merging Emacs.app) Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 18:40                                 ` merging Emacs.app David Kastrup
2008-03-09 10:05                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-09 13:14                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-09 13:27                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-09 14:30                                     ` David Reitter
2008-03-10  0:19                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-10 10:06                   ` Adrian Robert
2008-03-10 10:48                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-10 14:09                       ` Adrian Robert
2008-03-10 15:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 18:26       ` MAINTAINERS file Richard Stallman
2008-03-03 21:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-04 23:03           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 12:10           ` Bastien
2008-03-09  1:00             ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-09  2:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 16:40               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-03  2:14   ` Chong Yidong

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