Emacs CVS And VM Breakages

Emacs CVS And VM Breakages

[T. V. Raman]

I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the problems I
reported earlier e.g. VM  losing the body of a message on sending
have disappeared. 

The problem returns if I move to CVS from Feb 4.

Here are the breakages I saw --- initially I suspected dbus
because I  Had recently enabled it in my config for the build,
and I  dont run X on my machine. That might still be a factor ---
not sure.

Weirdness I observed:

0)  All vm send commands lost the message body.
1) mspools.el -- only some of the keybindings defined in mspools
mode were available -- for example 'n' and 'q' were not bound.

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Re: Emacs CVS And VM Breakages

[Miles Bader]

"T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the problems I
> reported earlier e.g. VM  losing the body of a message on sending
> have disappeared. 

The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs has changed (it
is now based on a superset of utf8, rather than the old "emacs-mule"
encoding).

My recollection (from years past though) is that VM has historically
been a bit flaky about handling non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising
such a change would expose bugs in VM.  I'd suggest contacting the VM
maintainer.

-Miles

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Re: Emacs CVS And VM Breakages

[T. V. Raman]

I sent email to the current maintainer of VM.

Note however that that was not the only breakage -- see bits
about mspools.el.

In general things felt sufficiently broken to cause me to roll back.

>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
    Miles> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
    >> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the
    >> problems I reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a
    >> message on sending have disappeared.
    Miles> 
    Miles> The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs
    Miles> has changed (it is now based on a superset of utf8,
    Miles> rather than the old "emacs-mule" encoding).
    Miles> 
    Miles> My recollection (from years past though) is that VM
    Miles> has historically been a bit flaky about handling
    Miles> non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising such a change
    Miles> would expose bugs in VM.  I'd suggest contacting the
    Miles> VM maintainer.
    Miles> 
    Miles> -Miles
    Miles> 
    Miles> -- Witch, n. 1, an ugly and repulsive old woman in a
    Miles> wicked league with the Devil; 2, a beautiful and
    Miles> attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond
    Miles> the Devil.

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Re: Emacs CVS And VM Breakages

[Stefan Monnier]

> In general things felt sufficiently broken to cause me to roll back.

Well, this *is* "in development bleeding edge" code,


        Stefan


>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
Miles> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
>>> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the
>>> problems I reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a
>>> message on sending have disappeared.
Miles> 
Miles> The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs
Miles> has changed (it is now based on a superset of utf8,
Miles> rather than the old "emacs-mule" encoding).
Miles> 
Miles> My recollection (from years past though) is that VM
Miles> has historically been a bit flaky about handling
Miles> non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising such a change
Miles> would expose bugs in VM.  I'd suggest contacting the
Miles> VM maintainer.
Miles> 
Miles> -Miles
Miles> 
Miles> -- Witch, n. 1, an ugly and repulsive old woman in a
Miles> wicked league with the Devil; 2, a beautiful and
Miles> attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond
Miles> the Devil.

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> --raman

      
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Re: Emacs CVS And VM Breakages

[T. V. Raman]

Well, Iwas reporting a breakage. I didn't assert it shouldn't be
broken; on the other hand, how would you know that it was broken
if no one told you?

>>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
    >> In general things felt sufficiently broken to cause me to
    >> roll back.
    Stefan> Well, this *is* "in development bleeding edge" code,
    Stefan> 
    Stefan> 
    Stefan>         Stefan
    Stefan> 
    Stefan> 
    >>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
    Miles> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
    >>>> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the
    >>>> problems I reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a
    >>>> message on sending have disappeared.
    Miles> 
    Miles> The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs
    Miles> has changed (it is now based on a superset of utf8,
    Miles> rather than the old "emacs-mule" encoding).
    Miles> 
    Miles> My recollection (from years past though) is that VM
    Miles> has historically been a bit flaky about handling
    Miles> non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising such a change
    Miles> would expose bugs in VM.  I'd suggest contacting the
    Miles> VM maintainer.
    Miles> 
    Miles> -Miles
    Miles> 
    Miles> -- Witch, n. 1, an ugly and repulsive old woman in a
    Miles> wicked league with the Devil; 2, a beautiful and
    Miles> attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond
    Miles> the Devil.
    Stefan> 
    >> -- 
> Best Regards, --raman
    Stefan> 
    Stefan>       
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    Stefan>

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