From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:58:26 +1300 Message-ID: <18304.31762.745340.441425@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <198e25e10801052103p7acfcacdndaf925ea4c557e98@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199602723 20133 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 06:58:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 06:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Trey Jackson" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 07:59:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBPTK-0005mK-Np for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:59:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBPSx-0000eE-VR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:58:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBPSu-0000e9-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBPSs-0000dx-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:58:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBPSs-0000du-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:58:34 -0500 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBPSs-0004n1-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:58:34 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (76.60.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.60.76]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BB83D9D4D; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:58:32 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D0288FC6D; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:58:27 +1300 (NZDT) In-Reply-To: <198e25e10801052103p7acfcacdndaf925ea4c557e98@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 23.0.50.24 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86290 Archived-At: > The graphical improvements to GUD are nice, but as far as I can see, the new > features are limited to viewing GUD data. > The other things that could be added are being discussed, and I thought I'd > listed a couple of possibilities. > > project management (files & build) > bug tracking (see the other threads) > task management (planner.el, todo-mode, etc.) > code browsing (yes, it exists, but as add-ons) > manage window configurations (Eclipse calls them perspectives) > integrating profiling tools - and analyzing the results > > > An IDE can be so much more than a debugger. >... If you are offering to write code to do some of these tasks that's great. If not, then the danger of making the discussion so general is that it detracts from the specific proposals and nothing gets done. I think the priority must be first to use a modern bug tracker and VCS for Emacs development. Integrating these and other features into Emacs are more substantial tasks that can be done when volunteers are found. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob