From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: GianUberto.Lauri@eng.it (Gian Uberto Lauri) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What OS is used By Richard Stallman Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:40:51 +0100 Message-ID: <18302.3379.706756.157446@gastone.eng.it> References: Reply-To: saint@eng.it NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199443290 7793 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2008 10:41:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ignoramus5311 Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 04 11:41:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JAjzp-0008Kl-Qn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:41:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAjzT-0003XQ-5o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:41:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAjz1-0003Wa-G0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:40:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAjyz-0003W6-Cg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:40:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAjyy-0003Vq-Ht for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:40:56 -0500 Original-Received: from joe.tiscali.it ([213.205.33.54]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JAjyy-0001pF-2C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:40:56 -0500 Original-Received: from gastone.eng.it (217.133.20.189) by joe.tiscali.it (7.3.122) id 47470E0A0181DFE1; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:40:52 +0100 Original-Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc, gnu.misc.discuss, gnu.emacs.help, comp.os.linux.advocacy In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 23.0.50.9 X-attribution: CC X-Zippy: Yow! Legally-imposed CULTURE-reduction is CABBAGE-BRAINED! X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50487 Archived-At: >>>>> "I" == Ignoramus5311 writes: >> OpenBSD of course. Theo de Raadt is Stallman's hero. :) >> Stallman could never get an F.S.F. operating system to work >> properly. He tried to steal the Linux name as GNU/Linux but he >> never succeeded. Bullshit. They tried the micokernel way maybe w/o the required resources, since a microkernel is much harder to debug. But w/o GNU software the Linux kernel should have been as useless. If Linus could have compiled it with minix native compiler (have you ever read what was the Minix license at that time or have you ever asked professor Tanenbaum for the compiler sources ? BEFORE GNU/Linux we were using bash, gcc, emac, bison, flex etc on other U*x as a better replacement of the native tools. They run on machines very few coukd afford for use at home. And when Linus dialed his PC HD, friing the Minix partition, he was using gcc to compile its tools and other GNU tools. He even wrote the kernel ti comply to the tools needings. And THAT made the Linux kernel succesful, because it fitted perfectly in GNU, creating a good unix replacement you coukd run on the box you could afford at home. I> Linux is simply a shorter, easier version of saying GNU/Linux. I> Similar to "US" being a shorter version of "USA". Right! I> Any GNU/Linux distro is a packaging of Linux kernel with GNU I> programs. All, AFAIK. I> Most of these GNU programs (X, Gnome, KDE, binutils, gcc) I> run under many kernels and operating systems, such as Linux, BSD, I> Sun, MS Windows, and so on and so forth. Xfree is not a GNU project, and Xorg too. But what you say is right. And, again, did it BEFORE the Linux kernel was written. -- /\ ___ Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_____ African word //--\| | \| | Integralista GNUslamico meaning "I can \/ e coltivatore diretto not install di software Debian"