From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: D-Bus integration into Emacs Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:59:20 +1300 Message-ID: <18259.50536.10123.529379@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <874pf6ypv8.fsf@gmx.de> <87prxp57la.fsf@gmx.de> <18259.27327.46121.155608@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20071203080459.3fc50296@gmx.de> <18259.45576.834760.600713@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20071203094823.19bfeb4b@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196672427 15411 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 09:00:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christian Faulhammer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 10:00:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iz7AD-0008Qi-V7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:00:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz79x-0001Zn-2W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:00:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz79e-0001YC-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:59:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz79b-0001XX-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:59:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz79Z-0001XS-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:59:50 -0500 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iz79Z-0005fV-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:59:49 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (150.30.255.123.static.snap.net.nz [123.255.30.150]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE813DA1E0; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:59:37 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 305EA8FC6D; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:59:21 +1300 (NZDT) In-Reply-To: <20071203094823.19bfeb4b@gmx.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 23.0.50.5 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84550 Archived-At: > > I'm starting from a position of ignorance, but perhaps resolve that by > > explaining in simple terms both what dbus would give me and why I ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > might not want it. The reality is that if it's off by default, most > > users won't be aware of it to turn it on. However, if it's on by > > default, presumably only users who already knew about it would want > > to turn it off. > > Most people who build a D-Bus aware Emacs will follow the commits and > mailing lists closely. So they know how they do...in Gentoo (which is > source-based, so build on the user's system) people can have D-Bus > globally but only deactivated for Emacs for whatever reason. > Auto-detection will switch it on even if USE=dbus is not activated, we > patch ALSA detection out to give users control if they want to have > ALSA everywhere except Emacs. > So mostly it reduces hassle for packagers. People using Emacs CVS on > Gentoo see the option dbus and can choose if they activate it. Phew, I'm glad I didn't ask for the advanced explanation! -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob