From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: guided tour suggestions Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:04:45 +1200 Message-ID: <18049.65021.594788.317299@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <87645ai4cl.fsf@phil.mit.edu> <85d4zi6jdo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182924353 29136 80.91.229.12 (27 Jun 2007 06:05:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Phil Sung , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 27 08:05:46 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I3QeL-0007Yx-O5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:05:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3QeK-0003b6-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:05:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3QeH-0003aY-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3QeF-0003a2-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3QeF-0003Zw-Cg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I3QeD-0002KM-5e; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (206.60.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.60.206]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1513D9CA6; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:04:58 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6AC958FBF6; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:04:46 +1200 (NZST) In-Reply-To: <85d4zi6jdo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.8 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73911 Archived-At: > > Again, the draft is at: > > > > > > If no one objects, I will ask the webmasters to replace the version > > on gnu.org with this soon. > > I just took a look at it: Ugh! This is supposed to _advertise_ Emacs, > and I have enough of a fight convincing people that Emacs has made the > step into the twenty-first century. The guided tour is completely > unsuitable for that... There have been many opportunities to comment on the guided tour before. Some of your comments might be legitimate but unfortunately, as usual, your manner is highly antagonistic and counterproductive to the fragile spirit of co-operation. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob