From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Stephen.Berman@gmx.net: Re: redisplay] Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:25:28 +1200 Message-ID: <17972.25736.270394.758601@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <87mz0z5dux.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <462D059B.7020001@swipnet.se> <87d51u211n.fsf@escher.local.home> <20070424.075017.71197070.mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> <87lkgergy1.fsf@escher.local.home> <85odl7hb3x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177838867 3198 80.91.229.12 (29 Apr 2007 09:27:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 29 11:27:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hi5h0-00063C-AP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:27:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hi5n3-0004mn-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hi5my-0004ld-UP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hi5mx-0004lR-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hi5mx-0004lO-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:33:51 -0400 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hi5gq-0007mB-Mt; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (31.63.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.63.31]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9963DB993; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:27:24 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id E2335627ED; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:25:28 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <85odl7hb3x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.98.2 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70359 Archived-At: > > Your fix is almost certainly an improvement. Unless someone sees > > a gross flaw in it, please install it tomorrow. > > I see a gross flaw in installing "almost certain improvements" in a > central area of Emacs when we are trying to pin down a final release. I guess freedom doesn't mean being able to make someone do what they don't want to. It appears to me that the release process, having gone on for three years now, is a more of a means to get bugs fixed than aimed at a release in itself. But while Richard can control the release, Emacs is free software, so he can't control the distribution and, indeed, some distros are starting to include snapshots of Emacs 22. The cat is, or soon will be, out of the bag. >... > I am unsubscribing from the list until the release is over. I can't > stand this any longer. Hello? Are you still there? -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob