From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menubar on text only terminals Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:56:11 +1200 Message-ID: <17936.36075.282286.535939@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <17934.2504.477668.354102@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17934.54358.129732.694345@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <20070402021343.GA2989@kobe.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175489944 18355 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2007 04:59:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 04:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Giorgos Keramidas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 02 06:59:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HYEdB-0000MR-IG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:59:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYEgA-00075S-Tx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 01:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYEg7-00075A-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 01:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYEg6-00074y-Gl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 01:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYEg6-00074v-D4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 01:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HYEd4-0003Lf-LL; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (150.60.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.60.150]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7653DA1C5; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:58:46 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 05B2D627ED; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 05:56:11 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <20070402021343.GA2989@kobe.laptop> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.96.4 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:68921 Archived-At: > > With tmm, sub-menus have to be navigated through completions > > lists, which some find inconvenient. Toolbars don't have that > > extra complexity. I'm just trying to say that toolbars and > > text terminals (with use of the mouse) are a more natural fit. > > That's kind of debatable. Programs like the text-mode elinks web > browser work quite nicely with a text mode menubar. The menu bar > of Emacs works in a different way than the elinks menu bar, but I > don't see why this makes it less useful than the toolbar. Maybe for the reason I just gave? I'm not familiar with Elinks but if it works as well as you say, perhaps, ATR it would a good idea to redesign Emacs text mode menubar along the same lines. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob