From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menubar on text only terminals Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:36:22 +1200 Message-ID: <17934.54358.129732.694345@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <17934.2504.477668.354102@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175377152 8205 80.91.229.12 (31 Mar 2007 21:39:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 31 23:39:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HXlHs-0002wH-Mj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:39:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXlKj-0006br-0w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:42:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HXlKg-0006bj-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:41:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HXlKf-0006bX-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:41:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXlKf-0006bU-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:41:57 -0500 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HXlHm-0006ui-Oc; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:38:59 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (74.63.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.63.74]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345273D9EEC; Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:38:56 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id E46B9627ED; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:36:22 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.96.4 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:68861 Archived-At: > I can make a menu item work like a toolbar icon on a text only terminal > with the following: > > I don't entirely understand what that means. One mouse click on a menu item is sufficient to perform the underlying function (before my change on 2007-03-30 a mouse click popped up a completions list). This is just how the toolbar functions. > This probably isn't for the release, but I think toolbar functionality > maps better onto text only terminals than the menubar because there are > no pull down menus to worry about. > > I am really lost there. With tmm, sub-menus have to be navigated through completions lists, which some find inconvenient. Toolbars don't have that extra complexity. I'm just trying to say that toolbars and text terminals (with use of the mouse) are a more natural fit. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob