From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: --with-gtk as default? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:27:55 +1300 Message-ID: <17892.45163.858842.328409@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <85wt23idxi.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85649ni9h8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17892.41562.272591.53294@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <85lkijgsp9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172615326 20069 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2007 22:28:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 27 23:28:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HMAo7-0005dR-4O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:28:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMAo7-0006ha-4N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:28:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMAnr-0006dm-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMAnp-0006a6-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMAno-0006ZU-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:28:09 -0500 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HMAnl-0000Ua-6d; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:28:05 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (189.60.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.60.189]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413B63D9E38; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:27:59 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 683AA4F6E0; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:27:57 +1300 (NZDT) In-Reply-To: <85lkijgsp9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.94.2 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66966 Archived-At: > Why? If X11 is not available, we fall back to without-X. Would you > claim that without-X is for that reason the best choice for the > default? Because it builds on more platforms? That's an absurd analogy. > I'd say that trying for GTK+ as default and Xaw as fallback is > perfectly reasonable for an X11 build. Nowadays Xaw widgets are not > even as likely to be available as developer libraries as GTK+ is. > > What builds everywhere for X11 is actually the "native" Lucid widget > version, not Xaw. And yet Xaw is the default, _when_ available. I know very little about the availability of widget sets but given that the last five pretests haven't built with GTK as default and the momentum from them appears to have diminished, it would seem to be too late to make this decision. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob