From: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: python-mode patch
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:41:21 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17640.55041.315587.638100@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060820214937.48E0.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se>
> Anyway, it seems that essentially *nobody* is using python-mode from
> CVS Emacs.
I think it's only safe to assume no one is currently developing python-mode.
> There are two reasons, I imagine. First, it isn't all that
> usable ATM -- there is quite a number of annoying quirks and things
> that do not work as well as they should. Most of them seem to be minor
> and not too difficult to fix, though, as the code is pretty clean.
>
> The other reason, probably even important, is that there is another
> python-mode, at http://sf.net/projects/python-mode
Doesn't this mode only work with XEmacs?
> "Our" python-mode has one important advantage, however: it uses comint
> for running Python interpreter, while the other one seems to have
> ad-hoc code for talking to the Python. Therefore I do not think it is
> a good idea to give up developing our version.
The other python-mode uses something called pdbtrack. Can that be made to work
with Emacs? (Perhaps Ken Mannheimer can elucidate). I am interested in
improving pdb in gud.el but don't know enough about python.
> Taking it into account, I would like to become a maintainer of
> python-mode. I would also like to try and fix as much as possible (due
> to lack of my time it may not end up being all that much, though)
> before the release. It should not cause any real problems since, as I
> said, nobody appears to be using the mode currently.
It will be a problem if you accidentally remove features that you are not
aware of.
> And it is important to have a *working* mode for the release, if it is
> to ever gain a reasonable user base.
Others seem to think it does work reasonably well. Perhaps they can review
your proposed changes.
> One problem I have is about naming, as it is more than a little
> confusing right now. "Our" mode is called python-mode, distributed in
> file python.el, and uses commands starting with python-. The other
> mode, originally developed by Tim Peters and maintained now (I think)
> by Barry A. Warsaw is also called python-mode.
>
> It would be good to have unambiguous way of talking about those modes.
> Does anyone have a suggestion how to avoid confusion?
>
> Would saying "GNU python-mode" make sense?
On this mailing list if you say python-mode, we would assume you mean the
one in the CVS repository.
--
Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-20 21:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-10 10:43 python-mode patch Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-10 11:22 ` Nick Roberts
2006-08-10 16:12 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-10 20:19 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-20 19:53 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-20 20:31 ` Steven Huwig
2006-08-21 9:39 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-20 21:08 ` Edward O'Connor
2006-08-21 9:03 ` Piet van Oostrum
2006-08-21 9:39 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-21 17:57 ` Peter Lee
2006-08-22 1:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-22 19:40 ` Peter Lee
2006-08-22 20:07 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-22 20:31 ` Peter Lee
2006-08-23 20:10 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-09-09 19:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-20 21:41 ` Nick Roberts [this message]
2006-08-21 9:39 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-20 22:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-21 9:39 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-21 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-21 11:13 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-23 20:10 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-25 7:43 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 8:11 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-25 8:26 ` Nick Roberts
2006-08-26 10:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-26 21:56 ` Nick Roberts
2006-09-27 3:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-09-27 5:30 ` Nick Roberts
2006-09-27 3:59 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-09-28 2:13 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 7:43 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 15:44 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-21 18:27 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-23 8:12 ` Nick Roberts
2006-08-23 15:03 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-24 19:08 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-24 22:06 ` Nick Roberts
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