From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs 24's forward-char vs right-char behavior Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <17621309.1810.1335491905331.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbw7> References: <379c8837-79c2-4692-8103-0bfa473f221e@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <6251ec09-a82e-4843-9b52-1074dc20eaf1@a8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335491919 18287 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2012 01:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: gnu.emacs.help@googlegroups.com Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 03:58:37 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNaSD-0003Ek-DF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:58:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35079 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNaSC-0001J3-HU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNaS6-0001If-MW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:58:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNaS5-0005LT-2j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:58220) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNaS4-0005LO-UN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11so695420vcb.6 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.68.194.101 with SMTP id hv5mr385618pbc.2.1335491905575; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=175.136.230.202; posting-account=pYxWjwkAAACsHSUNDoi5N05LVCTP7PVM Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 175.136.230.202 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 175.136.230.202 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.220.189 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84656 Archived-At: On Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:50:53 UTC+8, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Yes, it's not easy at all. Especially if you think about such > complications as moving cursor with the Shift key pressed, which marks > the region you move across. With the visual cursor motion, the intent > of the user wrt which buffer positions should be included in the > region is ambiguous. Indeed, when I tested now, I observed that when merely moving the cursor, C= hrome uses visual cursor motion, but when selecting text it switches to usi= ng logical cursor motion. I'm not sure what is more confusing, logical cur= sor motion when moving, or changing behaviour when selecting text, but defi= nitely you need to use logical motion when selecting text.