From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Kehoe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: [simon.marshall@misys.com: Font Lock on-the-fly misfontification in C++] Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:28:12 +0200 Message-ID: <17616.32316.759027.971436@parhasard.net> References: <20060723142630.GB1433@muc.de> <20060731220419.GF1271@muc.de> <17616.29352.887502.516153@parhasard.net> <85mzanwjct.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1154514518 18612 80.91.229.2 (2 Aug 2006 10:28:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, simon.marshall@misys.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, bug-cc-mode@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 02 12:28:33 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8Dxo-0001lr-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:28:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8Dxo-0000Qj-6N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G8Dxd-0000QL-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G8Dxb-0000Pw-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8Dxb-0000Pt-Mf; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.111.49.30] (helo=icarus.asclepian.ie) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8E0a-0006n9-3N; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:31:24 -0400 Original-Received: by icarus.asclepian.ie (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E96378008E; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:28:12 +0100 (IST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <85mzanwjct.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" (+CVS-20060717) XEmacs Lucid X-Echelon-distraction: top secret Yucca Mountain ICE MSW site bullion X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57997 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:13258 Archived-At: Ar an dara l=C3=A1 de m=C3=AD L=C3=BAnasa, scr=C3=ADobh David Kastrup:=20 > And we use the term "Emacs" for referring to Emacs. > When the term "GNU Emacs" is used, it is to draw attention to the GNU > project and the part Emacs plays within it, not to insinuate that the > scope of Emacs is supposed to be restricted to within GNU. No-one uses =E2=80=9CGNU Emacs=E2=80=9D to insinuate that the editor is s= upposed to be restricted to within the GNU project. What gave you that impression?=20 > Contrasting "XEmacs" and "GNU Emacs" is therefore misleading. The > proper names of the editors are "Emacs" and "XEmacs".=20 Then GNU Emacs should call itself just =E2=80=9CEmacs=E2=80=9D on its sta= rtup screen, as XEmacs calls itself =E2=80=9CXEmacs=E2=80=9D on its startup screen. =20 > "GNU Emacs" is a distinction, but not one differentiating Emacs and > XEmacs. I disagree.=20 > [...] I don't think it too onerous to expect that XEmacs developers ca= ll > Emacs "Emacs".=20 Active developers call your branch of the editor GNU Emacs! It is hypocritical at best to object when others do likewise.=20 > The stance that "Emacs" is supposed to mean "Emacs and > XEmacs" and only "GNU Emacs" is supposed to carry the meaning "Emacs" = is > not really helpful, not even to XEmacs users. XEmacs still supports (emacs-version); lots of our documentation uses =E2=80=9Cemacs=E2=80=9D to refer to any version of the editor, something = the GNU branch rarely does (that is, it rarely admits that the documentation may be applicable to other branches.). I personally would prefer to do this less= ; I changed the title bar to say =E2=80=9CXEmacs=E2=80=9D rather than =E2=80=9C= emacs=E2=80=9D partly because of that.=20 --=20 Santa Maradona, priez pour moi!