Re: table.el and org.el

From: "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net>
To: dominik@science.uva.nl
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: table.el and org.el
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 06:03:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17540.11160.268219.725322@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1ed8aa566d4e2ec57f58049531df5ce@science.uva.nl>

I hadn't realized org-mode-map did its own rebindings; that
should be sufficient in terms of clues for me to trace this down.

>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    Carsten> I have never closely looked at how table.el works
    Carsten> and how it creates and installs its special keymap.
    Carsten> Nor do I know what Emacs speak does.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> But I can explain what Org-mode does:
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Org-mode defines its own self-insert-command
    Carsten> (org-self-insert-command).  It then re-binds all
    Carsten> keys that are assigned to self-insert-command in the
    Carsten> *global* map.  That binding takes place in
    Carsten> org-mode-map.  However, for me table.el works fine -
    Carsten> so that means it does install its keymap correctly
    Carsten> also in Org-mode.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> To summarize - I have no idea where things go wrong.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Things to try would be to (require 'table) before
    Carsten> org.el gets loaded, and maybe (if that if necessary)
    Carsten> to force table.tl to built its keymap before the
    Carsten> first org-mode file gets loaded.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> On Jun 5, 2006, at 2:14, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >> I'm losing table-mode keybindings when I create table.el
    >> tables in org-mode.
    >> 
    >> This may be due to interction with emacspeak --- see
    >> explanation below, but I need some tips on how to fix
    >> this.
    >> 
    >> Symptoms:
    >> 
    >> I can use table.el tables in non-org buffers.
    >> 
    >> In org-buffer, if I create a table.el table I get
    >> problems.
    >> 
    >> Explanation of Problem:
    >> 
    >> Emacspeak redefines self-insert-command since that command
    >> cannot be advised.  table.el also redefines and rebinds
    >> self-insert-command, and I have advised table.el's
    >> insertion commands, that works correctly.
    >> 
    >> table.el sets up a special keymap where it rebinds
    >> self-insert-command; I've advised the remapping command to
    >> become aware of the need to also rebind emacspeak's
    >> version of self-insert command.
    >> 
    >> For some reason there seems to be some interaction between
    >> table.el and org-mode that causes the final step in the
    >> above chain to fail.
    >> 
    >> Thoughts?
    >> 
    >> -- 
    >> Best Regards, --raman
    >> 
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