From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117002: Correctly treat progn contents as toplevel forms when byte compiling Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <172ea415-25d9-48d8-bc98-8017ff5ff332@default> References: <535558EA.7070506@dancol.org> <53559BD2.3000006@dancol.org> <5355D244.2050104@dancol.org> <5355F442.6080606@dancol.org> <5356A56B.4060501@dancol.org> <5356B15B.7020802@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398192301 31651 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2014 18:45:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 20:44:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wcfga-0007uJ-Pq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:44:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wcfga-0000oY-DL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47753) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcfgP-0000oE-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcfgG-0000Zo-CT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:17644) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcfgG-0000Zj-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s3MIiNfx018565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:44:24 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s3MIiMR2029251 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:44:23 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s3MIiMUa029235; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:44:22 GMT In-Reply-To: <5356B15B.7020802@dancol.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171588 Archived-At: > That said, the CL way is much better. It's conceptually simpler to say > that defmacro at toplevel is well-defined (progn contents being > considered "toplevel") and everything else is undefined than to try to > support this defmacro stuff in *all* contexts and run into the exciting > corner inherent in your approach... Are you saying that in CL if defmacro is used elsewhere than at top level it is not well-defined? That doesn't sound right to me. (Apologies if I misunderstand. If so, or if irrelevant, please ignore.)