From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fringes Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:27:26 +1300 Message-ID: <17216.49470.575955.180660@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <17215.42381.148191.71003@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128322874 4010 80.91.229.2 (3 Oct 2005 07:01:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 07:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 09:01:13 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EMKIo-0002wO-Cw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:59:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EMKIm-00064p-I6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:59:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EMK7H-0003Oc-Ll for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EMK7E-0003O1-So for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EMK3K-0002pv-Jx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EMJqX-0001E2-1G; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (p182-tnt1.snap.net.nz [202.124.110.182]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8505F68B1; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:30:40 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 00EF982F7; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:27:26 +1300 (NZDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43483 Archived-At: > If a buffer uses the default left fringe width, the variable > left-fringe-width is nil while the function window-fringes returns > information about the fringes of a window. So there appears to be > no way to determine the fringe width of a buffer that is not > currently displayed. > > What does it mean to speak of the "fringe width of a buffer that is > not currently displayed"? You're right, it doesn't mean anything, the fringe width will depend on the frame that it's displayed in. > If it means the fringe width that would be in effect if that buffer is > displayed in a window, then if left-fringe-width is nil in that > buffer, it should use the default. So couldn't you just use the > default value? I assumed that all frames have the same fringe width, which was previously true by default, so I didn't notice a problem. The default value for the speedbar is 0 now, which isn't generally what I want. > That ought to be easy, so if you think this problem is hard, perhaps I > have missed the point. If the buffers that hold breakpoint icons are visible, it's straightforward. If they are not visible then I'm not sure what to do. Nick